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Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon sources?

Posted: Mar 6th, 2015, 2:57 pm
by TigerShark
I thought this stuff called Last-A-Foam would work but it is only sold in full sheets 4x18x100" and that is over $1300. R-3325 is good for 1200' water depth. I need 1000' working depth.

Any other options anyone knows about for small quantities?

Another option I am looking into is making my own. I can get micro balloons but would need macro balloons as well to keep the density reasonable.

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Mar 6th, 2015, 9:50 pm
by ROVER3D
i used 3M microballons with epoxid to model my rov-housing. I've paid ~30$ for 5L microballons / glass bubbles (0,21mg/cm³) http://shop1.r-g.de/art/210125

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... ctic-foam/

what you mean with Macro-ballons?

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Mar 9th, 2015, 3:37 pm
by TigerShark
That sounds like the cheapest option at this point. Also I could mold and cast it then to make several spares.

Macrospheres are larger glass spheres that help reduce the weight and come in various sizes.

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Mar 16th, 2015, 4:10 pm
by piercet
I found some macrospheres off ebay when I cast mine, but I haven't seen them since. The ESS SF-22 or SF-25 setups should work. finding them is the tricky part. http://www.esyntactic.com/products-solu ... ler-sf-22/

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Jun 30th, 2015, 3:35 pm
by Astronaut
Oops, I'm a little late to the party... Oh well!

Anyways, although it isn't syntactic foam, it is apparently made by Last-a-Foam which is what you mentioned earlier.
When coated it apparently is good down to 600'. Now I just need to figure out how to coat it!

https://www.bluerobotics.com/store/buoy ... /float-r1/

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Jun 30th, 2015, 6:03 pm
by KR2_Diving
Astronaut wrote:Oops, I'm a little late to the party... Oh well!

Anyways, although it isn't syntactic foam, it is apparently made by Last-a-Foam which is what you mentioned earlier.
When coated it apparently is good down to 600'. Now I just need to figure out how to coat it!

https://www.bluerobotics.com/store/buoy ... /float-r1/
Astronaut,
You beat my by minutes in posting the link to Blue Robotics!

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Jul 1st, 2015, 11:25 am
by TigerShark
I can't get to the page from here so I'll check it later. General Plastics is local to me. Their R-3315 would be perfect as it is good to 1400' coated.
https://www.generalplastics.com/r-3300.html

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Jul 2nd, 2015, 10:33 am
by sthone
Astronaut wrote:Oops, I'm a little late to the party... Oh well!

Anyways, although it isn't syntactic foam, it is apparently made by Last-a-Foam which is what you mentioned earlier.
When coated it apparently is good down to 600'. Now I just need to figure out how to coat it!

https://www.bluerobotics.com/store/buoy ... /float-r1/
Good Find... I didn't know Blue Robotics was carrying this... I was just in the process of trying Fiberglass coated blue home insulation but this is making me rethink that as the R-3312 would definitely work. The price is not to bad either.

-Steve :sting:

Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Jul 2nd, 2015, 10:41 am
by TigerShark
My fiberglass covered foam insulation board didn't make it to 65 feet without crushing quite a bit. Lots of small bubbles when I brought it back up and it was a lot heavier!
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Re: Affordable Syntactic Foam options or Macroballoon source

Posted: Jul 2nd, 2015, 1:06 pm
by ROVER3D
I was surprised to see polyurethane-based foam was sold as "subsea" buoyancy. I know this foam is used in motor-sports as an "airbag". At high speed impacts it behaves like a soft sponge to absorb the impact. So its not a solid material and collapse under pressure. This is why it need to be coated... :(